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[insert here] delenda est's avatar

I think Finnis has easily the better of this because he is not so blind to human nature as Raz. But I agree that they are both wrong for largely the reasons you say.

I see little hope for defunding the whole horrible apparatus, but on immigration and security there are some positive signs that Europe is waking up to the horrible mistake they've made.

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Terry's avatar

Fiddling while Rome burns. The current dominant "fairy story" is wokery - making sacred - literally - race, gender and sex in particular. Under this umbrella the bad (illiberal) behaviour of minorities (or in the case of Australia, the female majority) can shelter.

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