There’s such a thing you know as latency Arbitrage-speed of transmission of market data difference. It’s Yuge.
Some day comments will be openly monetized as opposed to the semi stealth monetizing that already happened with Chatgpt and Reddit. Monetizing comments data stream for AI is Musk’s whole game for Twitter aka X...
The problem with replacing The Bible for progressive ideas is that progressive ideas are a poor substitute for the profoundness of scripture. I suppose if people think moral relativism is true then it would make sense to assume them to be interchangeable, but that’s a bold assumption that seems less and less true as time goes on.
The Catholic Church has always been held together by WD40 and Divine Providence. Put on the armor of God and get in the trenches, same as it’s always been.
Grounding yourself in bollocks is delusional. Grounding yourself in the bollocks of a kiddie-fiddling cult is criminal. Too many of my friends had their lives ruined by a nonce in holy orders. Now go away.
They’ve been saying Christianity won’t last the century for centuries. Much of this essay could easily be used to argue the woke stuff won’t last (decline of happiness as a result of the sexual revolution, diversity over function doesn’t work, etc.) and that either the current young generation or one or two after them will return to the faith after seeing the train wreck of wokeness.
There’s also the matter that outside of the English speaking world, and more specifically outside Europe and the Anglosphere, Christianity is growing. This wouldn’t be the first time Christian lands fell into disrepair and needed to be re-evangelized, nor would it be the first time Christianity dealt with a weird sect that rose in Christian lands.
I’m not saying we should bury our heads in the sand, it’s just that I do not see this truly replacing Christianity in the long run.
Stunning and convincing indictment of the Great Awokening, which from where I sit not far from Puritan Jonathan Edwards' stomping grounds has taken over every institution with DIE indoctrination, from town governments to churches to schools, demanding absolute conformity. Google Erica Faginsky-Stark to see how the heresy of defending women's sports led to the highly competent (by all accounts, I don't know her) educator being denied two jobs in school districts. A local minister even testified against her right to hold a dissenting view, shades of Anne Hutchinson who was expelled by the Puritans for daring to express her own opinions. (However much Christianity benefited women comparatively, it has also routinely silenced women's voices.) Much to reflect on in this essay but it is also time to act. A generation of highly impressionable children are being taught to see race in poisonous ways and are being misled with confusing and corrosive ideas about sex and gender. Looking forward to future essays and calls to action! Thank you!
Another great essay. As an atheist it has always been an enormous frustration the complete lack of understanding that atheists have shown to the important function that religion plays in human life. As if a mere rational disproof of God's existence is enough to rid us religion. The function that religion serves has never been understood by most atheists. I suspect it because individuals can live without it, but not society it seems.
There’s no Trick we see, just the entire civilization tossed out...
From the Penthouse and Striver class below it, mind you.
Perhaps the trick doesn’t exist, it never worked before.
Throwing trash out the top floors onto those below works for awhile, mind you when the last insane progeny then start tossing firebombs too...
Now if the rulers didn’t have access to nuclear weapons and would leave us alone it could be waited out, but they do and you don’t (yes , you.... this is your hour)... so something must be done or we’re all dead.
I’ve always expressed this problem as “I want the externalities of organized religion without organized religion.” (That happens to show that I might be a bit of a hypocrite about it.)
Clementine Churchill reproaching Winston Churchill for non-churchgoing. 'Ah, my dear Clemmy,' replied Winston. 'You are like a great pillar. You support the church from the inside. But I am a flying buttress. I support it from the outside.'"
Too busy being angry to do the science. Until we sort that we'll always be in danger from the opiates of the delusional. The answer to Malaria is neither Sickle-Cell nor Thallasemia. Kill the mossies... and drain the swamp!
The managerial class is not facing their own “Taylor Time” well, meanwhile we competent essential workers are the USSA defiant proles of the late 80s.
The PMC OTOH is finding out that PMC /=KGB and customer service ain’t the @ss kissing contest when it gets to Murican soviet worker (me🤣).
Don’t know if this is quite on thread but observing with amusement the managerial class coming to grips with competent “essential workers” proletarians like myself... as in...
... we’ll fix it when it’s fixed, we’ll assign someone when available and when there’s a need based on priority.
This is quite a shock for the YELP online ratings managerial class of today, where everyone exists for 3 decades to cater to YOU, such poor service!! We really need to go over this particular case on the monthly conference call.
That and I’m routinely getting disconnected when annoying tw@ts but especially the outsourced 3d world types call and I know it’s 💩 but their plan is to be relentless. Too bad, fewer and fewer of we competent left and the person you’re escalating to hasn’t touched equipment in years or decades, IF he’s even in his same field, as opposed to management.
Oh and no it wasn’t a good idea to fire most people, and no the 3d world can’t replace us.
A lot of Woke is a retreat into religion and spiritual comfort.
It goes well with Der Bunker excesses and orgies behavior and it’s happened before: Woke is a cult of the Damned and Doomed Managerial Class.
They’re undoubtedly also turning to seances and who knows what Occult spiritualism and ceremonies behind closed doors.
A few minutes ago I hung up and often do on the abusive D@lio cult, they can 💩 on each other not me (I’ve seen them abuse each other on emails and calls and not me, try elsewhere).
OTOH if anything real needs fixing I have and will, including difficult or elusive situations for exactly them and others.
The problem is they don’t know how to act except as Karen’s and people with skills increasingly will hang up the phone - especially since the social and Constitutional contract was shredded to get rid of Trump- their choice to be the entitled parasites is coming back on them with vengeance.
This morning there was a drama about weather related extended outages. The appearances of prioritizing a particular client because $$$ was not attended to ...
well the weather answers to none. Perhaps an offering to gaia will conjure additional “Human Resources” who can fix the problem faster; if they exist outside of present numbers, and who would have trained them (takes years) and is there sufficient replacement materials around?
Legal complications; do the repairs require permits?
How long and how much does that take?
All very well to think you can change 2500-3000+ years of civilization and the genetics that thrived in it... easy to say it...
“Theory based on the celebration of subversion and deviance turns out to be disastrous for making things work.”
Or providing security, food, water, power, or doing violence to extract the necessities and enforcing compliance.
Now in some countries the police will follow any orders, but not America nor legally or Constitutionally do they have to follow any orders, especially those patently unlawful.
IRL coward and absent leadership are helpful in avoiding disaster and disgrace.
I am Steve Watson; I'm a biblioholic. While I LOVE your bibliography; my wallet hates you, Lorenzo. :-)
This series is a 21st Century Must Read. We have to map the hole-shaped hole before we think about filling it; lest "God" or the "Dialectic" glom on it again. Remember, heroin was once the "cure" for morphine addiction.
Your topic sounded interesting so I started to read today's article. I'm a little rushed, so I didn't read the whole article, but in the first few paragraphs it seems you have little understanding of biblical Christianity, although you may be just lost in the weeds. I would even go so far as to suggest (from my minuscule dive into the essay) that you miss the whole point of Christ and the Christian culture that has grown from the Messiah of Israel. Certainly, many diverse views within that culture are valid even though many points of disagreement might exist. I hope you will keep thinking and expressing your thoughts about what I think we can agree is a fallen world--one that isn't just not as perfect as it might be, but broken; not the way it's supposed to be, The key fact that defines Christianity is the (compound, multifaceted) truth that one particular man, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, lived, died (thoroughly dead), and rose back to life. You probably have a copy already of the accounts of eye witnesses and contemporary historians, and I challenge you, before you write much more, to read their accounts, known today as the major part of the New Testament: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Sorry that I may sound hostile, but that is not my intent at all.
Lorenzo is analysing Christianity as an historical phenomenon, not for its truth claims. I can assure you we've both read its canonical texts, sometimes in Latin and Greek as well as in English translation.
I am entirely concerned with the social function of religion in this essay. I am very well aware that Christianity functions in distinct ways in its social effects. Indeed, Latin Christianity functioned differently from Greek Christianity in ways that mattered.
I'm glad you didn't take offense. It's just that I wonder if anyone who doesn't consider Christianity to be true would be bothered to think its teachings worth more than a grain of salt. To me, recognizing that is true incentivizes me to discern, understand, and follow its precepts.
People with an interest in comparative law (like me) finish up taking an interest in comparative religion almost by default. There are only two great legal systems in human history, one developed by pagans (Roman law) and one developed by Christians (England's common law).
While they share many traits (including a distinctive form of reasoning known among lawyers as "legal method"), differences between them are often due to the religious values held by the peoples who developed them.
Given I'm a lawyer--a relatively unusual one in that I've trained & practised in both systems--I have been forced to pay attention to comparative religion.
LW and HD if I can recommend Chris Bray on the Performative Artists of Woke ... no one talks that way in private. Religious people will usually work religion into the conversation sooner or later. It’s the center of their life, more or less. The Jews for example will be very quiet about it even if asked, but wearing the skullcap. And so on...
Do you have a citation of that law, or a summary from a Catholic source? Regency romances tend to be set in the UK, long after that country rejected Catholicism and made Anglicanism its official faith. There are plenty of official Catholic adoption agencies, which would be very odd if it were contrary to the official teachings of Catholicism.
It was always a Canon law matter, and Canon law has changed. Anglicanism did not significantly diverge from Catholic Canon law on the matter of adoption.
I am ready to believe you, but what I am looking for is some kind of official source. How did you reach the conclusion that the Catholic Church banned adoption? I'm presuming that you saw it in the actual Canon law. Do you have a reference link to the prohibition?
This is apparently a mistake. So, it was good of you to raise the issue. Which still creates a puzzle about wardship and why adoption only becomes legal in the US in the mid C19th and in the UK in the early C20th.
The Ukraine war is ending, you know because military tribunals only happens when the deployments or wars over … 🤣 the Article 15s happen at the end when the cowards have no need of you and wish to assert power. Every time.
Zelensky replacing heads of military recruitment centers over corruption allegations | The Hill
I see a bit of a shitfight has broken out in the comments. Please try to keep it civil so Lorenzo doesn't wake up to a binfire.
[Remember, I'm in the UK, which is why the various articles on here are published when they are; Lorenzo is in South-Eastern Australia.]
UK to AU latency?
Why ; Arbitrage!!
Why there’s a market here!
There’s such a thing you know as latency Arbitrage-speed of transmission of market data difference. It’s Yuge.
Some day comments will be openly monetized as opposed to the semi stealth monetizing that already happened with Chatgpt and Reddit. Monetizing comments data stream for AI is Musk’s whole game for Twitter aka X...
Just saying- 💩 could be...💰
Garbage is Gold for the Mafia.
🫡
The problem with replacing The Bible for progressive ideas is that progressive ideas are a poor substitute for the profoundness of scripture. I suppose if people think moral relativism is true then it would make sense to assume them to be interchangeable, but that’s a bold assumption that seems less and less true as time goes on.
The Catholic Church has always been held together by WD40 and Divine Providence. Put on the armor of God and get in the trenches, same as it’s always been.
Grounding yourself in bollocks is delusional. Grounding yourself in the bollocks of a kiddie-fiddling cult is criminal. Too many of my friends had their lives ruined by a nonce in holy orders. Now go away.
The Church was weak , 👋🏻 bye.
Was, is, and will be. How else to best humble the strong?
Selling out to who they sold out to humbled no one, grow balls, fight or perish.
They’ve been saying Christianity won’t last the century for centuries. Much of this essay could easily be used to argue the woke stuff won’t last (decline of happiness as a result of the sexual revolution, diversity over function doesn’t work, etc.) and that either the current young generation or one or two after them will return to the faith after seeing the train wreck of wokeness.
There’s also the matter that outside of the English speaking world, and more specifically outside Europe and the Anglosphere, Christianity is growing. This wouldn’t be the first time Christian lands fell into disrepair and needed to be re-evangelized, nor would it be the first time Christianity dealt with a weird sect that rose in Christian lands.
I’m not saying we should bury our heads in the sand, it’s just that I do not see this truly replacing Christianity in the long run.
Stunning and convincing indictment of the Great Awokening, which from where I sit not far from Puritan Jonathan Edwards' stomping grounds has taken over every institution with DIE indoctrination, from town governments to churches to schools, demanding absolute conformity. Google Erica Faginsky-Stark to see how the heresy of defending women's sports led to the highly competent (by all accounts, I don't know her) educator being denied two jobs in school districts. A local minister even testified against her right to hold a dissenting view, shades of Anne Hutchinson who was expelled by the Puritans for daring to express her own opinions. (However much Christianity benefited women comparatively, it has also routinely silenced women's voices.) Much to reflect on in this essay but it is also time to act. A generation of highly impressionable children are being taught to see race in poisonous ways and are being misled with confusing and corrosive ideas about sex and gender. Looking forward to future essays and calls to action! Thank you!
Another great essay. As an atheist it has always been an enormous frustration the complete lack of understanding that atheists have shown to the important function that religion plays in human life. As if a mere rational disproof of God's existence is enough to rid us religion. The function that religion serves has never been understood by most atheists. I suspect it because individuals can live without it, but not society it seems.
Not speaking for Lorenzo here but wanted to comment that I 100 per cent agree with your last sentence.
There’s no Trick we see, just the entire civilization tossed out...
From the Penthouse and Striver class below it, mind you.
Perhaps the trick doesn’t exist, it never worked before.
Throwing trash out the top floors onto those below works for awhile, mind you when the last insane progeny then start tossing firebombs too...
Now if the rulers didn’t have access to nuclear weapons and would leave us alone it could be waited out, but they do and you don’t (yes , you.... this is your hour)... so something must be done or we’re all dead.
Maybe we’re all dead.
I’ve always expressed this problem as “I want the externalities of organized religion without organized religion.” (That happens to show that I might be a bit of a hypocrite about it.)
This has never been done except as a private matter, which meant public behavior was within the bounds.
Clementine Churchill reproaching Winston Churchill for non-churchgoing. 'Ah, my dear Clemmy,' replied Winston. 'You are like a great pillar. You support the church from the inside. But I am a flying buttress. I support it from the outside.'"
https://anecdotage.com/anecdotes/pillar-and-buttress
Too busy being angry to do the science. Until we sort that we'll always be in danger from the opiates of the delusional. The answer to Malaria is neither Sickle-Cell nor Thallasemia. Kill the mossies... and drain the swamp!
The managerial class is not facing their own “Taylor Time” well, meanwhile we competent essential workers are the USSA defiant proles of the late 80s.
The PMC OTOH is finding out that PMC /=KGB and customer service ain’t the @ss kissing contest when it gets to Murican soviet worker (me🤣).
Don’t know if this is quite on thread but observing with amusement the managerial class coming to grips with competent “essential workers” proletarians like myself... as in...
... we’ll fix it when it’s fixed, we’ll assign someone when available and when there’s a need based on priority.
This is quite a shock for the YELP online ratings managerial class of today, where everyone exists for 3 decades to cater to YOU, such poor service!! We really need to go over this particular case on the monthly conference call.
That and I’m routinely getting disconnected when annoying tw@ts but especially the outsourced 3d world types call and I know it’s 💩 but their plan is to be relentless. Too bad, fewer and fewer of we competent left and the person you’re escalating to hasn’t touched equipment in years or decades, IF he’s even in his same field, as opposed to management.
Oh and no it wasn’t a good idea to fire most people, and no the 3d world can’t replace us.
If we suddenly get disconnected...
Learn to do it yourself.
Oh and grow turnips.
I do.
A lot of Woke is a retreat into religion and spiritual comfort.
It goes well with Der Bunker excesses and orgies behavior and it’s happened before: Woke is a cult of the Damned and Doomed Managerial Class.
They’re undoubtedly also turning to seances and who knows what Occult spiritualism and ceremonies behind closed doors.
A few minutes ago I hung up and often do on the abusive D@lio cult, they can 💩 on each other not me (I’ve seen them abuse each other on emails and calls and not me, try elsewhere).
OTOH if anything real needs fixing I have and will, including difficult or elusive situations for exactly them and others.
The problem is they don’t know how to act except as Karen’s and people with skills increasingly will hang up the phone - especially since the social and Constitutional contract was shredded to get rid of Trump- their choice to be the entitled parasites is coming back on them with vengeance.
This morning there was a drama about weather related extended outages. The appearances of prioritizing a particular client because $$$ was not attended to ...
well the weather answers to none. Perhaps an offering to gaia will conjure additional “Human Resources” who can fix the problem faster; if they exist outside of present numbers, and who would have trained them (takes years) and is there sufficient replacement materials around?
Legal complications; do the repairs require permits?
How long and how much does that take?
All very well to think you can change 2500-3000+ years of civilization and the genetics that thrived in it... easy to say it...
Not so easy to DO IT.
“Theory based on the celebration of subversion and deviance turns out to be disastrous for making things work.”
Or providing security, food, water, power, or doing violence to extract the necessities and enforcing compliance.
Now in some countries the police will follow any orders, but not America nor legally or Constitutionally do they have to follow any orders, especially those patently unlawful.
IRL coward and absent leadership are helpful in avoiding disaster and disgrace.
I am Steve Watson; I'm a biblioholic. While I LOVE your bibliography; my wallet hates you, Lorenzo. :-)
This series is a 21st Century Must Read. We have to map the hole-shaped hole before we think about filling it; lest "God" or the "Dialectic" glom on it again. Remember, heroin was once the "cure" for morphine addiction.
I'm sure Lorenzo can arrange an apology to your wallet :)
Your topic sounded interesting so I started to read today's article. I'm a little rushed, so I didn't read the whole article, but in the first few paragraphs it seems you have little understanding of biblical Christianity, although you may be just lost in the weeds. I would even go so far as to suggest (from my minuscule dive into the essay) that you miss the whole point of Christ and the Christian culture that has grown from the Messiah of Israel. Certainly, many diverse views within that culture are valid even though many points of disagreement might exist. I hope you will keep thinking and expressing your thoughts about what I think we can agree is a fallen world--one that isn't just not as perfect as it might be, but broken; not the way it's supposed to be, The key fact that defines Christianity is the (compound, multifaceted) truth that one particular man, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, lived, died (thoroughly dead), and rose back to life. You probably have a copy already of the accounts of eye witnesses and contemporary historians, and I challenge you, before you write much more, to read their accounts, known today as the major part of the New Testament: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Sorry that I may sound hostile, but that is not my intent at all.
Lorenzo is analysing Christianity as an historical phenomenon, not for its truth claims. I can assure you we've both read its canonical texts, sometimes in Latin and Greek as well as in English translation.
I am entirely concerned with the social function of religion in this essay. I am very well aware that Christianity functions in distinct ways in its social effects. Indeed, Latin Christianity functioned differently from Greek Christianity in ways that mattered.
I'm glad you didn't take offense. It's just that I wonder if anyone who doesn't consider Christianity to be true would be bothered to think its teachings worth more than a grain of salt. To me, recognizing that is true incentivizes me to discern, understand, and follow its precepts.
People with an interest in comparative law (like me) finish up taking an interest in comparative religion almost by default. There are only two great legal systems in human history, one developed by pagans (Roman law) and one developed by Christians (England's common law).
While they share many traits (including a distinctive form of reasoning known among lawyers as "legal method"), differences between them are often due to the religious values held by the peoples who developed them.
Given I'm a lawyer--a relatively unusual one in that I've trained & practised in both systems--I have been forced to pay attention to comparative religion.
LW and HD if I can recommend Chris Bray on the Performative Artists of Woke ... no one talks that way in private. Religious people will usually work religion into the conversation sooner or later. It’s the center of their life, more or less. The Jews for example will be very quiet about it even if asked, but wearing the skullcap. And so on...
https://open.substack.com/pub/chrisbray/p/an-animal-you-only-see-in-zoos?r=91o16&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
I’ll add this is an utterly negative “faith”, its “prayers” are denunciations almost exclusively.
What is the source for the idea that Christianity opposes adoption? I've done a bit of searching and haven't found anything.
It is Latin Church canon law. That is why, for example, in Regency romances, folk are wards rather than adopted children.
https://www.familyconnect.org.uk/historical-context-2/#:~:text=Adoptions%20were%20first%20made%20legal,in%20Scotland%20it%20was%201930.
Do you have a citation of that law, or a summary from a Catholic source? Regency romances tend to be set in the UK, long after that country rejected Catholicism and made Anglicanism its official faith. There are plenty of official Catholic adoption agencies, which would be very odd if it were contrary to the official teachings of Catholicism.
It was always a Canon law matter, and Canon law has changed. Anglicanism did not significantly diverge from Catholic Canon law on the matter of adoption.
I am ready to believe you, but what I am looking for is some kind of official source. How did you reach the conclusion that the Catholic Church banned adoption? I'm presuming that you saw it in the actual Canon law. Do you have a reference link to the prohibition?
I was relying on Jack Goody.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/development-of-the-family-and-marriage-in-europe/B2090AFDBA7748E625497D2328D30525
This is apparently a mistake. So, it was good of you to raise the issue. Which still creates a puzzle about wardship and why adoption only becomes legal in the US in the mid C19th and in the UK in the early C20th.
Found this, which seems relevant. https://vardags.com/family-law/a-brief-history-of-wardship?_its
If you want a more complete history regarding adoption, see here.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228128056_Classical_Religious_Perspectives_of_Adoption_Law
Here’s the State of California and much of the nation:
Children are fair game.
For anything.
https://open.substack.com/pub/chrisbray/p/the-license-and-the-entry-ticket?r=91o16&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
O/T
The Ukraine war is ending, you know because military tribunals only happens when the deployments or wars over … 🤣 the Article 15s happen at the end when the cowards have no need of you and wish to assert power. Every time.
Zelensky replacing heads of military recruitment centers over corruption allegations | The Hill
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4148808-zelensky-military-recruitment-centers-corruption-allegations/