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Lorenzo Warby's avatar

Which is more a question of our grasp of reality, rather than reality itself. I do not agree with Rorty’s scepticism about truth. But that not-true claims can be functionally effective, even highly effective, points to how we have not evolved to be veridical perceivers, but functionally effective ones. How much of being an effective actor within a social context do we wish to trade-off against being a veridical one?

Part of the answer being “functional for whom? And in what circumstances?”

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John Carter's avatar

It's absolutely a question of our understanding of reality ... although, to continue the recursive theme, reality necessarily includes our ability to understand it, and the way we understand it.

I do think that the current epistemic dispensation within the ruling elite assigns far too much weight to social utility - namely, their social advantage - and deprecates concordance with reality (however defined) to a pathological degree, e.g. the luxury beliefs you noted in your previous essay, as well as the content-free verbiage favored by most official communications.

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Lorenzo Warby's avatar

I partly blame mainstream economics for that, which puts far too much weight on efficiency compared to resilience (supply chains anyone?). When biological organisms economise (i.e. seek efficiency) in order to be resilient.

The multiplication of pseudo knowledge in other disciplines is even more to blame, but economists are not entirely innocent.

https://lorenzofromoz.substack.com/p/zen-and-the-art-of-flow

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John Carter's avatar

And so it was that I realized you have your own substack, which I have naturally subscribed to without yet reading, because it is obviously going to be worth reading.

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There and Where's avatar

The acceptance that any analysis of perception or consciousness will be recursive is incorrect. Even Aristotle realised that the apparent recursion meant that something else was happening other than flows from place to place in the brain. This article explains what is happening provided the reader can overcome their initial prejudices about recursion:

"Our Reality": http://www.thereandwhere.com/antsand.html

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