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Chris Adams's avatar

Well...it seems Christianity placed too much emphasis on equalitarianism.

There needs to be a better incorporation of the realities of Biology, that grant different groups with different aptitudes of leadership and social contribution.

1000 Pharaohs can't build a pyramid, one million slaves cant build a pyramid....they need each other

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Lucy Tucker's avatar

Not sure what you mean. Genesis 1 says male and female are equally in the image of God, but they are not interchangeable. Christianity does not deny the realities of biology.

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Chris Adams's avatar

Christianity does not allow for a ruling class.

All are "equal in the eyes of God"

Nice sentiment but it doesn't work.

I thought that was the whole point of the article

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Lucy Tucker's avatar

I think you missed the point of the article. It was speaking of progressive equalitarianism. Which is in fact bs. That is, women and men are different, yes. But Xty says they are equal before God, since both equally in the divine image.

And of course there are differences between people. Some are stronger, smarter, etc. But only Xty says the strong must not exploit the weak. Might does not make right. Or donтАЩt you believe that?

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Chris Adams's avatar

I actually do believe might makes right under the logic that in a competitive world there is always land disputes and the culture that can best protect its borders and create a safe environment for women and children is the culture that is morally correct.

Similarly...what makes Christianity "correct" or not compared to Islam, and Judaism is how strong it is. It is not currently strong. People are happy to be Islamic or Jewish and they are embarrassed to be Christian.

How do you explain that? What went wrong?

I'm saying that Christianity was too egalitarian giving social critics too much opportunity to weaken it.

Do you have an explanation for why Western world and Christianity is in such rapid decline?

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Lucy Tucker's avatar

The explanation is found in Scripture. Xty never said things were going to get better and better. In fact, the Church is undergoing the тАЬlong defeatтАЭ. Many of us believe it may be end times. It has to do with both enmity without and enmity within the church.

I also believe in strong borders, but that is completely consonant with Xty.

What makes Xty тАЬcorrectтАЭ is Jesus Christ. IтАЩm not embarrassed to be a Christian.

The Western world is in decline bc liberalism has failed. Not Xty.

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Chris Adams's avatar

Im on board with this analysis.

I hope youre right.

I do my part by going through the motions of my ancestors. Its not me who will break the chain

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Lorenzo Warby's avatar

I would not blame liberalism as such. It has a lot of successes. The subversion of what liberalism requires to function, yes.

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Incel Theory's avatar

"Similarly...what makes Christianity "correct" or not compared to Islam, and Judaism is how strong it is. It is not currently strong. People are happy to be Islamic or Jewish and they are embarrassed to be Christian."

--- Don't let the internet fool you! Most Jews are non-practicing. I think most don't even believe in God. And Islam has a huge turnover rate of people who easily convert, but then leave within a few years, quietly. On top of that born Muslims around the world are leaving in droves. Depending on their location, culture and family situation, they have to keep it a secret that they no longer believe, but there is a growing number of them speaking out online about it, sometimes using aliases and hiding their faces, and some just coming straight out and declaring their "ex-muslim" status. It's actually a fast growing movement, the Ex-Mulim Movement.

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Lorenzo Warby's avatar

That sounds like there is a possibility of a preference falsification cascade.

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Lucy Tucker's avatar

Where did you get that notion about Xty? There is always a need for government. See, e.g., Romans 13.

ItтАЩs more than a nice sentiment. As I said, without Genesis 1, there is no basis for eradicating slavery or treating women as equal in dignity with men. Paganism and Islam, the pagan monotheism, are notoriously misogynistic.

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