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Where's My Dark Money Cheque?'s avatar

FWIW, I don't think Judge Kemp is a transactivist; I think he is an old school sexist, or MCP as we used to call them. Amazing how such men have so much in common with transactivists, isn't it?! Replete also, in the passage about lipstick and speaking in modulated feminine tones signalling woman, with that faint whiff of gampiness.

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Andrew Phillips's avatar

The "fragrance" of Mary Archer comes to mind

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Kate Graves's avatar

Anyone who cares about the rule of law should be deeply troubled by the use of AI in producing judgments. If this had been a precedent-setting court the implications would be serious, and if it were a lower profile case it’s highly unlikely anybody would have even noticed.

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JJHW's avatar

This reminds me of that old, in Internet time, "quote".

"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet" - Benjamin Franklin

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James Fulford's avatar

Your talk of drafting opinions for judges (this is common in American courts, too) reminds me that in Cyril Hare’s 1942 murder mystery TRAGEDY AT LAW, one character is male Judge who has married a woman with brilliant legal mind, and she writes his opinions as a barrister and his Judgments as a Judge, so that “On one occasion, when one of these was the subject of an appeal, the sotto voce question of one Lord Justice to his brother, "Is this one of Hilda's?" had unluckily reached some quick ears in counsels' seats.”

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Stephen Riddell's avatar

It is very disappointing, Helen! I read quite a few of the research papers into 'ai' published this year, and have tried out Google Gemini Pro (this is much better than Flash, the free option currently ruining Google Search results) as it is part of my paid subscription to Gmail/Google Drive. I personally rate it as the most reliable 'ai' for research work, slightly more reliable than Grok (which I haven't personally used as I get a lot more from Google for my subscription than I would get on X).

Google never bought into the whole 'ai consciousness' debacle, and has continually criticised the 'deep minds' of all other computer science companies. Their policy has always been 'tool first' and Gemini Pro is nowhere near as sycophantic or biased as other LLMs like ChatGPT. It does make some category errors, however, you just need to use clear boolean search terms in your initial prompt.

The main flaw in Google Gemini at this current stage is it's preference for American English. Even with explicit prompting to follow British English conventions, it will consistently fail in these tasks until Google set up a new parallel 'British English' module in their post-training tweaks. I imagine it will likely end up as a separate model that users can pick to use.

The main issue with 'ai' remains the massive amounts of energy waste in Western 'ai' systems. Chinese 'ai' doesn't have this problem as it uses analogue chips instead of digital chips. Texas Instruments has been developing analog chips as well, but they don't seem to be penetrating the US market...

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Stephen Riddell's avatar

Since I posted this reply, my access to Substack over Firefox has been a bit patchy... I'm going to switch over to Brave and see if that solves the problem... Substack is still working fine on my phone...

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Stephen Riddell's avatar

Seems to be an Internet service provider issue... My connection on my phone is still working but I can't access Substack from my computer right now!

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Stephen Riddell's avatar

Troubleshooting complete! I am now back on my Windows 10 operating system and Substack is working pretty well (at least, as well as it ever has, it is still super buggy) again!

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Josh Slocum's avatar

Horrifying. And it's going to get much, much worse. At the highest and lowest levels.

I'm not sanguine that we'll have-forgive me-"access to reality" at all within five years. We won't know what's real, and worse, we won't *know how to know*.

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Jon Guze's avatar

AI juries will be next, assuming juries still exist. See my thoughts at the end of this article.

https://www.carolinajournal.com/unc-law-holds-mock-ai-jury/

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Jenny's avatar

its misnaming the group 'NotAllGays' as 'NotForGays' which i actually find most alarming. That feels like the kind of in-house in-joke a transactivist might have inserted to smugly and righteously damn the group, with the intention of removing it before publication... and they forgot. It feels like a glimpse of a mindset of those who prepared the judgment, because someone made that change consciously.

I'm aware of journalists doing similar things for people they dislike, and it accidentally making it through to publication.

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Where's My Dark Money Cheque?'s avatar

Most of the AI training, unfortunately, happened during the height of "woke", or pomo-addlement as I prefer to call it, and I fear it's going to take an awful long time to get the resulting homophobia and sexism out.

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Richard's avatar

Much of the text reads as if it has been dictated into a computer, as it has the texture of the spoken rather than written word. It helps explain the prolixity and redundancy. A computer could easily mistake "NotAllGays" for "NotForGays" particularly if the speech was very rapid or indistinctly articulated.

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Janette Parr Consulting's avatar

As an editor, I have my own nightmare stories about AI ….

Out of curiosity, I searched your ‘hallucinated quotation’ (you probably did this, too) and AI revealed it to be an almost exact rendering of a quotation by John Adams, taken from a letter to his wife. Who knows? I didn’t look any further. Where AI is concerned, my position is ‘life’s too short….’

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the long warred's avatar

Blackstone in one word;

Property.

It therefore follows that the only question ever is what or who is property, and Whom is owner?

If you answer that you have the truth regardless of law. Law mere words.

Property endures.

Property is real.

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Katy Barnett's avatar

It is frankly incomprehensible to me that a judge would do this. I suppose I am a control freak, and I would very rarely use AI for anything. If I were a judge, I would never use it for a judgment, particularly not a high profile decision that people might rake over. I just can’t even fathom this. To use hallucinated quotes is just extraordinary. I am deeply concerned by this - as another commenter has noted this has grave ramifications for the rule of law and confidence in the judiciary.

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