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Lorenzo Warby's avatar

You cannot even correctly quote the post you are commenting on. It is, quite literally, the worst slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust. Even treating it as a pogrom with hang-gliders and dash-cams puts it up there as one of the worst pogroms in Jewish history. Including a public gleefulness about killings Jews that not even the Nazis managed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom#Selected_list

I will grant you that, in terms of Muslim massacres of non-Muslims, it is comparatively much less notable.

https://www.lorenzofromoz.net/p/hamas-displays-a-muslim-way-of-war

If you want my views on the Israel-Palestine dispute — this is a post about Postcolonial Theory, which is not usually used against Palestinians — then see here:

https://www.lorenzofromoz.net/p/in-the-shadow-of-empire

It is not as if there is a shortage of public criticism of Israel.

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Rather Curmudgeonly's avatar

I recall body counts being an essential part of winning hearts and minds. How did that work out last time?

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the long warred's avatar

It works great and always has.

It worked in Vietnam, if that’s what you mean.

The war was won by 1970, then given away at table.

Worked great in Ireland too, Ireland is “Independent” because the United States was more important after WW1.

Worked great for the Russians to this day in Kaliningrad, formerly East Prussia. Now no Germans.

We just need to turn around and stack the back stabbers behind us next. Should have done first.

The Left makes it easy enough.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

Worked great in Germany and Japan.

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Rather Curmudgeonly's avatar

Well, all it takes is the death of almost entire age cohort of men, and a couple of nukes to make the point.

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UpdateProfile's avatar

That's not how it works. You start a war you get the consequences. Hamas knows this and _wants_ the consequences.

At Pearl Harbor, about 50 US civilians were killed and about 2400 military.

Did we set up a counter to kill exactly 50 Japanese civilians and 2401 military? Did we offer up a compensating number of Americans for target practice once their losses exceeded ours? Has any nation fought a war in that way?

How did the equivalence you propose work out during the Islamist attacks on the Yazidis? Have any of them risen from the mass graves they dumped in? How many of Islamists were killed when they enslaved and eliminated the ancient Yazidi tribe?

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Lorenzo Warby's avatar

This is a post about decolonisation, and its connections to the policy of terrorising Israelis, which has never worked, not the war in Gaza.

But on which, yes, Hamas deliberately hiding behind civilians and hostages is getting a lot of Palestinians killed, which Hamas obviously wants, as dead Palestinians help their cause. Witness all the demonstrations and commentary. But also witness that Hamas is getting no support from any of the regional players, which is very revealing.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-dog-that-isnt-barking

https://youtu.be/ymOTXoLlOQ0?si=IEOGpChxCG74gyAB

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Eugine Nier's avatar

There isn't a single Jewish lobby. There are many political active Jews, often lobbying for opposite causes.

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Lorenzo Warby's avatar

That Jews have been politically active across the political spectrum is why a lot of arguments blaming Jews for X or Y fall over. But there is a specifically Jewish lobby, made up of bodies like the ADL, that are very specifically operating as activists for specifically Jewish causes.

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