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Helen Dale's avatar

This is also entirely possible - I'm just speculating (although it is informed speculation - I've been the corporate lawyer managing investment round after investment round for tech firms that don't manage to hit the sweet spot - or, like the bar you mention, somehow lose it).

I think the libertarians you mention are now definitively outnumbered in Silicon Valley (look at the difference between Peter Thiel and the people who came after him at Paypal, for starters). They may still dominate at Mastodon and Minds, though.

Toad Worrier's avatar

"I think the libertarians you mention are now definitively outnumbered in Silicon Valley "

We are outnumbered, but larger in number than it looks. Because most of us are better at understanding social context than James Damore was.

vladROBOT 🪱's avatar

“...it may be that people are simply over social media.”

Lord, hear our prayer.

Helen Dale's avatar

Would be nice. Thing is, we may then come up with something worse...

vladROBOT 🪱's avatar

Snort❗️

RenThraysk's avatar

It is amusing. They are all setting out into the unknown toward to the fringes of the internet, and going to see sights they never imagined.

Tumblr last week announced they were going to allow nudity again on the platform. Probably hoping to reverse the exodus to twitter when they banned such content in 2018.

https://staff.tumblr.com/post/699744158019190784/this-is-not-a-drill-our-new-community-guidelines

Edit: Brainfart. Tumblr isn't Meta owned.

Helen Dale's avatar

Ah, that's interesting - and may even work. Porn is humanity's ID, and seems to find its own level everywhere.

Georgia McGraw's avatar

Interesting, we'll have to watch this (my)space. I think tumblr was partly killed by the smut exodus, but in part by the latest batches of mentally ill teenagers joining Tik Tok instead. I don't know how filthy Tik Tok is because I am no longer a mentally ill teenager, so have not joined. I do worry that the next shiny thing is going to be Elon Musk planting microchips in our brains and then beaming Rickrolls directly into our heads until everybody agrees to buy a Tesla.

vladROBOT 🪱's avatar

That’s pretty funny, right there.

HardeeHo's avatar

Tumblr caved to a degree and allows some nudity. With Musk talking about a Creators corner for paid subscribers we might see MyFans and Patreon upset. Tumblr had some great artists who much resented censorship. Apple was mad because some KP arriving on Tumblr so killed the app until Tumblr cleaned out the trash. I might think that all site that allow "free" expression ought to have a pay wall and a credit card on record to keep minors away, or at least make it more difficult.

Helen Dale's avatar

Good point about keeping minors out. Setting the social media age at 13 was /deranged/.

Steve Fleischer's avatar

I am an old Ludditte (sp?), but I enjoy getting opinions/insights from people smarter than I am.

To me Twitter (with all its flaws) is another source of information in an increasingly partisan news world.

We choose who we follow (lots of people like Helen on Twitter).

I paid for a subscription to help support it. Hope that Twitter survives.

Helen Dale's avatar

I was happy to buy a subscription just to be able to edit (I am a slow, inaccurate, two-fingered typist), but the option doesn't yet seem to be available in the UK.

Toad Worrier's avatar

But most of what appears of my feed is thing retweeted by the people I follow. Even if they have good taste, it still raises the noise to signal ratio.

Steve Fleischer's avatar

Agree.

But I am sure that as soon as you recognize the noise, you compensate.

And much (like Helen's comments) is original or a furtherance of original thought.

Toad Worrier's avatar

Mastadon devs being upset about Gab et. al. using thier software is unsurprising but hilarious. Because it's Mastadon working as intended.

The whole point is that is that individual nodes can set their own moderation policies and federate as they choose. It's greatest value was always going to be for those who bucked the censorious groupthink of the majors. That much was the plan. But for some reason these lefty devs imagined that it would be lefties like them getting censored.

In fact the "virtuous" nodes are even more deranged and narrow than the big boys so Mastadon only starts working properly when Gab et. al. start "abusing" it.

The really interesting question is whether these evil dissidents will federate with each other (to counter the network effects that of the big boys) or whether run their own walled gardens with Mastadon as just a convenient piece of software infrastructure. If they do the latter, Elon will eat them for breakfast.

Helen Dale's avatar

The whole thing is ridiculous.