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Helen Dale's avatar

Thanks Jay. I'll feature any observations you make as I've been doing with Arnold Kling's commentary.

Low Status Opinions's avatar

Thanks for this. The elites seem to want to separate consumers into two groups, the ‘clever’ people like themselves, and the rest of us who they see as little more than beasts. Here’s my take In reference to the UK’s stunningly censorious Online Safety Bill. Hope you don’t mind me linking it here. https://open.substack.com/pub/lowstatus/p/the-online-safety-bill-is-a-cannibal?r=evzeq&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Helen Dale's avatar

Relevant links like that are absolutely fine - I only get rid of persistent link spam (had to boot one of those yesterday).

Low Status Opinions's avatar

Thank you Helen. Very much appreciate it.

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

Really good insights! When you say self-deception, are you channeling "Leadership and Self-Deception: Getting Out of the Box" by The Arbinger Group?

Helen Dale's avatar

I'll leave Lorenzo to answer that when he wakes up (he's in Australia, so currently asleep).

Lorenzo Warby's avatar

No, more such works as ‘The Elephant in the Brain’ by Simler & Hanson but particularly ‘The Folly of Fools’ by Trivers.

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

Ah! Good sources as well. The Arbinger book is great but so often missapplied. Rule #1 of that book is to realize that you are in your own box before you can consider the boxes of others. But I'd say that should apply to almost everything!

Lorenzo Warby's avatar

The problem of recursive reasoning is part of the next essay.

HardeeHo's avatar

A fine essay easy to digest. Shows the traps we educated have created to control. Still a large number of people, like me, have discovered a better community. I just don't accept the MSM nonsense trying to control my thinking.

John Carter's avatar

Industrial civilization created such material abundance that mere comfort no longer sufficed to demonstrate status. Status being important to humans, luxury beliefs were invented. This then established a feedback loop that trapped the elite in an entropic self-deceptive cycle that progressively undermined the basis for that civilization in the first place. That's a plot twist no one would have expected a couple centuries ago.

Helen Dale's avatar

Absolutely correct imo.

Harrison Koehli's avatar

Great examples of what Lobaczewski calls the "egotism of the natural worldview" (prestige opinions), "conversive thinking" (rationalizations). Lorenzo blends the concepts, and expands on them too. "Luxury beliefs" is very helpful to have as an addition to the lexicon.

Helen Dale's avatar

Rob Henderson's insight, as Lorenzo points out.

daiva's avatar

Brought to the logical end, Pravda is all that is left within Overton. Eventually their contents become of one.

🗨 Everything in the Pravda, nothing outside the Pravda, nothing against the Pravda.