Very interesting. Kudos for the correct spelling of the acronym DIE. I have always wondered at the Canadian Establishment's love of 'multi-culturalism', a very 'Canadian' thing, rhetorically set up I imagine to counter the American 'melting-pot'. Which IS typically Canadian thing, among a certain cohort, to oppose all things American. I was never enthusiastic about multi-culturalism, but I was always pretty neutral about it. As I see that it has been increasingly co-opted by the identity politics crowd, I now oppose it. Thx for adding some new perspectives.
There are better and worse ways to do it, of course - Australia has a version of the policy that works reasonably well, likely because it piggy-backs on the country's existing points system.
Yes the Australian Public Service in which I worked was a very harmonious collection of extremely ethnically, sexually and religiously diverse individuals, all united by our common acceptance of middle class values and aspirations, carefully curated by the points system!
“multiculturalism is an imperial policy, not a democratic one. It lets bureaucracies play favour-and-dominate games, dividing the demos against itself.”
You've got such a brilliant way of explaining a subject. If you'll excuse the rather twee expression, you really do bring history to life, as well as picking apart the present so beautifully.
That’s all true but they’re walking through an open door that was not opened by the foreigners.
Granted this is a 21+ series of woes and grievances, but the migrants are a symptom not the disease, which is our Imperial State. It is of course the same system in the UK as France, above all America (we have Hispanics, who are becoming the New Italians very fast).
Gracious! If I were English or European I might preface this all with... “When in the course of Human Events...”
This was refreshing just because after 50ish years of intense propaganda with a strong undercurrent of moral bullying and emotional blackmail—Only Nazis think that group differences exist, borders are a white-supremacist construct, why do you hate starving Honduran children? etc—plus so much cultural conditioning based on a sort of fundamentalist interpretation of the Parable of the Good Samaritan, I feel like it's gotten to the point where if I even mention group differences or conflicting cultural values to my friends (with of course the most "educated" being the most allergic to thought and nuance), out come an avalanche of bigotry accusations.
The Diversicrats have a case of cognitive dissonance when it comes to their sacred DEI: on one hand other cultures are so rich, unique and ambient that being exposed to them is salubrious and educational, a cross between a visit to Lourdes and a TED Talk; but if you mention that we're not all interchangeable meat widgets and people from different cultures have different beliefs, values, interests, aptitudes etc, then of course you're marked with the Scarlet R and slated for social death.
But then again things like cognitive dissonance, inconsistency, or hypocrisy are easy to wave away when you control every cultural and educational institution in the entire Anglosphere.
Cheers to Helen and Lorenzo on another great essay.
If I EVER have to endure this mandatory woke 💩 again (I’ve learned to ignore them as I’m among the last fucking productive Mohicans) I will use these lines in the review .
We’re only interchangeable meat widgets if there’s money involved. Its loathesome to suggest otherwise, don’t dare to contradict us when we are contradicting ourselves.
Sincerely Sanctimonious Sociopathy is you may take my ☘️ word on it the reason the world speaks English.
Given the almost two-thirds vote to join the EEC in 1975, the notion that 40 years in the EEC-cum-EU made the English (and the Welsh) more racist is a mixture of stupid, funny and condescending.
I failed to mention how much I enjoyed this article and how it gave background to struggles I have with my family who are to a (wo)man all Anywheres. I was quite astonished to be called a racist but this article describes very well the process of arriving at that quite extraordinary conclusion.
This is the part where we find out democracy is as bad or worse as all the others with two enormous differences;
1) The Blame is on everyone.
2) It has larger appetites. The difference between Pinochet and Hitler is DEMOCRACY. Pinochet accomplished the same goal by killing 3000, Hitler murdered 10 million, because the blood lust had been awakened in so many that many more greedy for blood had to be sated.
Yes, the difference between Pinochet and Hitler is democracy.
So you're saying that Islam is pastoralist/raiding, hence enslaving (while the Romans never raided or enslaved anybody)?! That's kind of like saying that Christianity is about raiding/enslaving because its culture was formed by the ancient Hebrew pastoralists. In reality as opposed to this kind of anachronistic fantasy, Islamic culture has been city-based NOT "nomadic-pastoralist" for 1400 years, and Islamic polities have conducted war (and concomitant enslavement) in very nearly the same ways as non-Islamic ones. But this history is not very relevant to the situation today, in which nominal Islam is moderately linked to social and behavior health, while Islamic piety is strongly linked to it: https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2013/08/16/jamil-2/
As I discuss in my next post, there are different streams of Islam. But various social schemas (patterns of belief) and scripts (patterns of action) have enduring power. For instance, British Pakistanis have a hugely elevated rate of birth defects, due to centuries of cousin marriage.
"More likely" than whom? Non-Muslim immigrants of similar socio-economic status? I very much doubt it. If you controlled for the relevant variables (immigrant vs. native, socio-economic status) I predict you'd find that Islamic piety is strongly negatively correlated with sexual predation, while nominal identification as "Muslim" is weakly negatively correlated with it. Of course it's always possible that the presence of a few Pakistani organized crime rings in the UK would grossly distort the results of such a survey, so to be fair, it ought to be Europe-wide.
“Muslims make up around 90% of offenders from the lists of convictions, where guilt and innocence had been tested in a courtroom. But Muslims make up 5% of the population. Their calculations were: • The likelihood of individual Muslims to commit this offence is: 90÷5% = 1,800 • The likelihood of individual non-Muslims to commit this offence is: 10÷95% = 10.53 • So the likelihood of individual Muslims to commit this offence, compared to individual non Muslims, is: 1,800÷10.53 = 170.94 In other words, a Muslim man is 170 times more likely than a non-Muslim man to commit this crime.“. From Easy Meat.
Islam has sanctified rape of women who do not accept the rules of Allah since Muhammad killed all the men of the Jewish tribes of Medina and distributed their women and children as slaves to his followers. Hence it is a provision of Sharia that if a Muslim man captures as woman who has not accepted the rules of Allah, her marriage is immediately annulled. Hence also the Quranic references “to those thy right hand possesses”.
But you are absolutely right. Islamic piety makes rates of rape within Muslim communities extremely low. None of the aforementioned convictions were for rape of Muslim girls.
Sorry, Lorenzo, but you are delusional and raving. You didn't adjust the stats for immigrant and socioeconomic status, you didn't admit that the fluke of Pakistani organized crime rings in Britain (like the Russian mob in the Bronx = Russians are the worst criminals) distorts the stats, and your lunatic interpretation of religious rules and history ignores the fact that every civilization is based on warfare and that victors have always enslaved vanquished - it has nothing to do with religion, except for the tautology that religion is a part of society and conforms to society's rules. By far the most/worst war crimes in history have been committed by Christian and post-Christian polities, but obviously that has nothing to do with Christianity, though of course people prejudiced against Christians like many neo-pagans falsely claim it does.
Our "identities" are irrelevant to arguments of facts and logic. Lorenzo makes a category mistake in mistakenly viewing religion as the relevant variable. It's as if I blamed Catholicism, or ancient Hebrew pastoralism, for organized crime in Chicago disproportionately committed by the minions of The Godfather, who happened to be Italian Catholic; or if I blamed Eastern Orthodoxy for the horrendous organized crime wave unleashed by post-Cold-War Russian immigration to the US. Such a category mistake is a fallacy, and a rather ludicrous one at that, whether it's applied to Europe or the US.
Very interesting. Kudos for the correct spelling of the acronym DIE. I have always wondered at the Canadian Establishment's love of 'multi-culturalism', a very 'Canadian' thing, rhetorically set up I imagine to counter the American 'melting-pot'. Which IS typically Canadian thing, among a certain cohort, to oppose all things American. I was never enthusiastic about multi-culturalism, but I was always pretty neutral about it. As I see that it has been increasingly co-opted by the identity politics crowd, I now oppose it. Thx for adding some new perspectives.
There are better and worse ways to do it, of course - Australia has a version of the policy that works reasonably well, likely because it piggy-backs on the country's existing points system.
Yes the Australian Public Service in which I worked was a very harmonious collection of extremely ethnically, sexually and religiously diverse individuals, all united by our common acceptance of middle class values and aspirations, carefully curated by the points system!
THANK YOU
“multiculturalism is an imperial policy, not a democratic one. It lets bureaucracies play favour-and-dominate games, dividing the demos against itself.”
You've got such a brilliant way of explaining a subject. If you'll excuse the rather twee expression, you really do bring history to life, as well as picking apart the present so beautifully.
Very fine Medievalist is our Lorenzo.
Excellent as usual. Thank you.
Rediscovering Islamic threat?
??? Now?
That’s all true but they’re walking through an open door that was not opened by the foreigners.
Granted this is a 21+ series of woes and grievances, but the migrants are a symptom not the disease, which is our Imperial State. It is of course the same system in the UK as France, above all America (we have Hispanics, who are becoming the New Italians very fast).
Gracious! If I were English or European I might preface this all with... “When in the course of Human Events...”
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
You can quite ctrl+R “He (King George” with DC, “British “ with “American”
“....Prudence indeed dictates the bonds between (NATO, Special Relationship) not be lightly dissolved...”
Why even “....For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: ✔️
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these (European) States:✔️ (SOFA)
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world” ✔️ yes, see Ukraine embargoes.
‘🇺🇸 has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.’ - See NORDSTREAM
WOW. I mean JUST WOW
🤣🤣🤣
You really need to declare your Independence there , Europe.
Just Ctrl+R
And its much shorter than anything that came from Brussels.
This was refreshing just because after 50ish years of intense propaganda with a strong undercurrent of moral bullying and emotional blackmail—Only Nazis think that group differences exist, borders are a white-supremacist construct, why do you hate starving Honduran children? etc—plus so much cultural conditioning based on a sort of fundamentalist interpretation of the Parable of the Good Samaritan, I feel like it's gotten to the point where if I even mention group differences or conflicting cultural values to my friends (with of course the most "educated" being the most allergic to thought and nuance), out come an avalanche of bigotry accusations.
The Diversicrats have a case of cognitive dissonance when it comes to their sacred DEI: on one hand other cultures are so rich, unique and ambient that being exposed to them is salubrious and educational, a cross between a visit to Lourdes and a TED Talk; but if you mention that we're not all interchangeable meat widgets and people from different cultures have different beliefs, values, interests, aptitudes etc, then of course you're marked with the Scarlet R and slated for social death.
But then again things like cognitive dissonance, inconsistency, or hypocrisy are easy to wave away when you control every cultural and educational institution in the entire Anglosphere.
Cheers to Helen and Lorenzo on another great essay.
I’m stealing the fux outta this
“a cross between a visit to Lourdes and a TED Talk;”
LOL feel free!
“As if Mother Teresa sold me this on QVC”
lolol
If I EVER have to endure this mandatory woke 💩 again (I’ve learned to ignore them as I’m among the last fucking productive Mohicans) I will use these lines in the review .
we kill em like they killed Caesar...one stab at a time ;)
We’re only interchangeable meat widgets if there’s money involved. Its loathesome to suggest otherwise, don’t dare to contradict us when we are contradicting ourselves.
Sincerely Sanctimonious Sociopathy is you may take my ☘️ word on it the reason the world speaks English.
Variations
“A TED talk from Saint Peter’s Square”
“Our work is not done until YouTube beams TED talks from St. Peter’s Square”
Stealing the stolen. Let's make it a thing 🤸
https://fb.watch/lnem67wbHX/?mibextid=NnVzG8
Coudn't resist. Sorry.
So much funnier after the SNP implosion …
Given the almost two-thirds vote to join the EEC in 1975, the notion that 40 years in the EEC-cum-EU made the English (and the Welsh) more racist is a mixture of stupid, funny and condescending.
I failed to mention how much I enjoyed this article and how it gave background to struggles I have with my family who are to a (wo)man all Anywheres. I was quite astonished to be called a racist but this article describes very well the process of arriving at that quite extraordinary conclusion.
This is the part where we find out democracy is as bad or worse as all the others with two enormous differences;
1) The Blame is on everyone.
2) It has larger appetites. The difference between Pinochet and Hitler is DEMOCRACY. Pinochet accomplished the same goal by killing 3000, Hitler murdered 10 million, because the blood lust had been awakened in so many that many more greedy for blood had to be sated.
Yes, the difference between Pinochet and Hitler is democracy.
So you're saying that Islam is pastoralist/raiding, hence enslaving (while the Romans never raided or enslaved anybody)?! That's kind of like saying that Christianity is about raiding/enslaving because its culture was formed by the ancient Hebrew pastoralists. In reality as opposed to this kind of anachronistic fantasy, Islamic culture has been city-based NOT "nomadic-pastoralist" for 1400 years, and Islamic polities have conducted war (and concomitant enslavement) in very nearly the same ways as non-Islamic ones. But this history is not very relevant to the situation today, in which nominal Islam is moderately linked to social and behavior health, while Islamic piety is strongly linked to it: https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2013/08/16/jamil-2/
As I discuss in my next post, there are different streams of Islam. But various social schemas (patterns of belief) and scripts (patterns of action) have enduring power. For instance, British Pakistanis have a hugely elevated rate of birth defects, due to centuries of cousin marriage.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/nov/16/immigrationpolicy.politics#:~:text=An%20investigation%20by%20BBC%20Newsnight,rate%20of%20recessive%20genetic%20illnesses.
Similarly, British Muslim men are hugely more likely to be convicted of sexual predation.
https://www.perlego.com/book/2699422/easy-meat-inside-britains-grooming-gang-scandal-pdf
"More likely" than whom? Non-Muslim immigrants of similar socio-economic status? I very much doubt it. If you controlled for the relevant variables (immigrant vs. native, socio-economic status) I predict you'd find that Islamic piety is strongly negatively correlated with sexual predation, while nominal identification as "Muslim" is weakly negatively correlated with it. Of course it's always possible that the presence of a few Pakistani organized crime rings in the UK would grossly distort the results of such a survey, so to be fair, it ought to be Europe-wide.
And by the way, a fair bit of what happens in pubs every night could be defined as "sexual predation."
A contemptible trivialisation.
“Muslims make up around 90% of offenders from the lists of convictions, where guilt and innocence had been tested in a courtroom. But Muslims make up 5% of the population. Their calculations were: • The likelihood of individual Muslims to commit this offence is: 90÷5% = 1,800 • The likelihood of individual non-Muslims to commit this offence is: 10÷95% = 10.53 • So the likelihood of individual Muslims to commit this offence, compared to individual non Muslims, is: 1,800÷10.53 = 170.94 In other words, a Muslim man is 170 times more likely than a non-Muslim man to commit this crime.“. From Easy Meat.
Islam has sanctified rape of women who do not accept the rules of Allah since Muhammad killed all the men of the Jewish tribes of Medina and distributed their women and children as slaves to his followers. Hence it is a provision of Sharia that if a Muslim man captures as woman who has not accepted the rules of Allah, her marriage is immediately annulled. Hence also the Quranic references “to those thy right hand possesses”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_slavery#Ma_malakat_aymanuhum
But you are absolutely right. Islamic piety makes rates of rape within Muslim communities extremely low. None of the aforementioned convictions were for rape of Muslim girls.
Sorry, Lorenzo, but you are delusional and raving. You didn't adjust the stats for immigrant and socioeconomic status, you didn't admit that the fluke of Pakistani organized crime rings in Britain (like the Russian mob in the Bronx = Russians are the worst criminals) distorts the stats, and your lunatic interpretation of religious rules and history ignores the fact that every civilization is based on warfare and that victors have always enslaved vanquished - it has nothing to do with religion, except for the tautology that religion is a part of society and conforms to society's rules. By far the most/worst war crimes in history have been committed by Christian and post-Christian polities, but obviously that has nothing to do with Christianity, though of course people prejudiced against Christians like many neo-pagans falsely claim it does.
Indulge in name-calling again on my Substack and you will be perma-banned. First and last warning.
OK, but when replying to comments, please address the issues raised, rather than irrelevantly digressing in service to bigotry.
Denmark has found that Muslim migrants are a systematic fiscal drain on the state.
https://rmx.news/article/report-immigration-from-non-western-countries-costs-denmark-5-billion-annually/
A more complete discussion of the Danish fiscal data is here.
https://inquisitivebird.substack.com/p/the-effects-of-immigration-in-denmark
Our "identities" are irrelevant to arguments of facts and logic. Lorenzo makes a category mistake in mistakenly viewing religion as the relevant variable. It's as if I blamed Catholicism, or ancient Hebrew pastoralism, for organized crime in Chicago disproportionately committed by the minions of The Godfather, who happened to be Italian Catholic; or if I blamed Eastern Orthodoxy for the horrendous organized crime wave unleashed by post-Cold-War Russian immigration to the US. Such a category mistake is a fallacy, and a rather ludicrous one at that, whether it's applied to Europe or the US.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/rotherham-grooming-gang-sexual-abuse-muslim-islamist-racism-white-girls-religious-extremism-terrorism-a8261831.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/14/world/middleeast/isis-enshrines-a-theology-of-rape.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany
https://noliesradio.org/archives/156607
https://unherd.com/thepost/the-media-still-wont-speak-the-truth-about-grooming-gangs/